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Free Reading Sundiver (The Uplift Saga, #1) Author David Brin – Wildlives.co

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10 thoughts on “Sundiver (The Uplift Saga, #1)

  1. says:

    The most fascinating aspect of Brin s work is, next do the development of language depending on the habitat and culture of a species, the idea of uplifting Many questions, ideas and plot possibilities come with it Have we been uplifted If we have been uplifted, are we living in a kind of alien zoo Could this be part of the simulation hypothesis Is what we do with other animals, such as breeding for thousands of years and now, the hottest new trend, genetic engineering with techniques as CRISPR, not a kind of own style of uplifting How will we deal with the rights of species, such as wales, octopus, birds, elephants, monkeys, etc if they develop very high intelligence naturally by evolution or with our help How can they be integrated into a human or alien society At which point is a species mature enough to be allowed to uplift other species If there are different kinds of intelligence, especially with individuals or with hive minds and the uplifter has a preference or completely beliefs in the ideology of one kind of culture, what kind of assimilation is the right one to avoid destroying the culture and polluting it with foreign influences Culture is the most difficult topic, cause the danger of Cargo Cults and directed, technical development that destroys uniqueness and creativity are ubiquitous.What about the right so stay primitive or at a certain level without further development, because the species prefers to stop all developments at a certain level that seems adequate to them This is one of the most astonishing magic capabilities of Sci Fi, to let the reader with open than answered questions after finishing reading Imagine just the sheer amount of all movie, game and literature alien species with extremely detailed culture and how many possibilities of how they might influence each other in a fictive crossover can grow out of a simple mind game Just Stark Trek vs Star Wars would be an infinite war of possibilities and fandom.Tropes show how literature is conceived and which mixture of elements makes works and genres unique


  2. says:

    Christmas 2010 I realised that I had got stuck in a rut I was re reading old favourites again and again, waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works Something had to be done.On the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge, to read every book to have won the Locus Sci Fi award That s 35 books, 6 of which I d previously read, leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to me.While working through this reading list I got married, went on my honeymoon, switched career and became a father As such these stories became imprinted on my memory as the soundtrack to the happiest period in my life so far.There are three books I ve considered honorary members of my Locus Quest reading list In circumstances where books two and three of a trilogy are award winners, it seems only fair to read the first book in that series to understand the full story and context Green Mars and Blue Mars are award winners so I needed to read Red Mars , even though it wasn t a winner The Confusion and System of the World are award winners so I needed to read Quicksilver , even though it wasn t a winner Startide Rising and The Uplift War are award winners so I needed to read Sundiver , even though it wasn t a winner I wasn t disappointed to read Red Mars or Quicksilver they are both excellent books and essential parts of their series Sundiver is not it s not an excellent book, and it s not an essential part of the series I ve since read Startide Rising and The Uplift War Brin came up with a great concept and it s an interesting series which definitely picks up after this patchy start Each book basically stands alone they re set in the same universe in a linear timeline, but on different worlds and with different characters Startide Rising and The Uplift War are at least causally linked the events of Startide Rising lead, by political chain reaction, to the events of The Uplift War The same cannot be said of Sundiver Events here are mentioned briefly in the following books, but are basically irrelevant.As I said the concept for the series is excellent The universe is filled with hundreds of sentient species, each intent on uplifting pre sentient races into spacefaring civilisations They re rewarded for their efforts with prestige and a thousand year patron client master slave relationship with their newly uplifted underlings Every species can trace their patrons patrons like aristocratic ancestry back into the mists of time Humanity is the only known species to reach the stars without a patron, to have uplifted itself We are the wolflings , the rogue state, the fresh meat, the loose cannons The stage is set it s a great concept.What gives The Uplift Saga a bit of extra spice is that humans have clients of their own They re not fully uplifted yet, but before we discovered the galactic civilization waiting out there in the stars, humans have already been meddling with the genes of our most intelligent fellow Earthlings chimps and dolphins are close to full, independent sentience It s this thread which pays huge dividends in the rest of the series Startide Rising focuses on a starship crewed by dolphins and The Uplift War is set on a genuine planet of the apes populated by chimps themselves trying to uplift gorillas Sadly, these mighty oaks are still acorns in Sundiver we briefly meet a semi sentient dolphin at the start, and a genius but pre vocal chimp is a significant character but we re still keeping mankind front and centre.This is basically a detective story Something kooky is going down in the Sundiver Spacestation where humans are flying special ships deep into the sun and our hero, a sort of zen psycho, is called in to investigate He stumbles into some galactic political machinations some jockeying for control over humans, some fighting amongst themselves and using us as pawns which are muddying the waters around a research breakthrough regarding lifeforms residing in the outer layers of the sun.Still sounds good, doesn t it Sadly the execution feels dated and silly There s no other word I can think of Of course the humans outwitted the aliens, we re just better, duh The alien politics are a long way from Machiavellian and their behaviour kind of juvenile Our hero is an oddball I never came to love.It s not terrible but it s awfully blah.The rest of The Uplift Saga is better do yourself a favour and skip Sundiver Start with Startide Rising , you wont miss much.


  3. says:

    This is science fiction from 1980 and is therefore not obsessed with 1 Computers.2 Nanotech.3 Wormholes.This makes it rather refreshing Instead this book uses an old theme, prevalent in post WWII American SF Humans read the USA are superior to everybody else In this example, humans are technologically outclassed by every other space faring species in the galaxy but are superior because their intelligence evolved naturally instead of being the result of genetic manipulation by an older species Or maybe not it s the hottest debate in the galaxy Various species think humans are upstarts Others usually also younger species kinda like humans Devious, nefarious politics ensues and our protagonist gets caught up in it.A slow start leads on to an exciting Poirot style murder mystery and then a further action adventure in the chromosphere of the sun, where life has been discovered Apart from being a compelling story, the main interesting thing in the book is this sun life I m sure I ve come across the idea of star life before but never in as much detail.Inevitably this is the first volume of a series I m inclined to carry on with it if I spot the remaining volumes.


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    I really disliked this book This may have been due in part that I listened to the audible edition and I m not a fan of George Wilson as a narrator.The protagonist in this book, Jacob, is tedious and unbelievable The author builds him up as a world weary, zen, super scientist, martial artist with a Mr Hyde like split personality that he needs keep in check Al the other characters in this book are diminutive to Jacob The women in the novel are little better than 2 dimensional window dressing Of course, the female captain of the Sundiver spaceship is fit, tough, incredibly attractive, lascivious and unapproachable And, of course, it s only a matter of time before she let s down her guard and buries her head in Jacob s shoulder.I don t know David Brin s story, but Sundiver leaves me thinking that the author has a serious ego deficit that he needs to compensate for with his heros.I decided to read this in preparation to read Startide Rising, which won the 1983 Hugo award for best novel Unless I hear differently, I may very skip that one.


  5. says:

    4 StarsMy first David Brin novel I enjoyed this high concept science fiction novel It is a fun adventure to the depths of our sun itself Aliens, monsters, and ghosts fill the action scenes All the while this is a novel filled with politics and racism.I liked the unfolding of the mysteries of this book, it could have been a gem The ending plays out in an almost anticlimactic way It was a let down.I will read from him.


  6. says:

    The Uplift books are tied for my favorite sci fi series with Asimov s original Foundation series This is sci fi at its very best Brin goes through an astonishing number of fascinating ideas and concepts, but leaves them for the reader to peruse or discard Want racial allegory Sure Prefer religion Plenty of it Political intrigue It s there by the truckload.When Brin goes into pretend science he goes all in One can almost sense his smirk going through this first book that s right, this book has talking chimpanzees and dolphin haikus and spaceships flying into the sun Wanna fight about it It works, and the mileage he forces out of it is outstanding.And to top everything off he makes a point of tying off each book with an epic space battle, punctuated with a stunt humans come up with that surprises or angers their alien counterparts for sheer boldness and audacity What s not to love


  7. says:

    Mr von D niken must be very proud that his beliefs became the other evolutionary theory in this saga D nikenism versus Darwinism You can almost glimpse the birth of Ancient Aliens Series I very much liked well, some of the episodes, at least , which, unfortunately, I cannot say about this first part of the Uplift Saga.The main character, Jacob Darwa, is a sort of Hercule Poirot in a galactic interracial plot A team composed of humans and a few races of aliens starts an expedition to discover a new race which lives in the sun s chromosphere Which sounds pretty good until you start reading The narration has no substance, I think 95% of it consists in dialogues between the crew members The aliens seem to be cut from a comic book, the descriptions are sketched, there is nothing to keep your interest going Maybe I had expected something else and that s the reason for not liking it But since the 2nd part won two major prizes and I m curious for what , I guess I will give this series another try someday.


  8. says:

    Most recent SF I read is actually a bit dated, David Brin s Sundiver I picked it up because it got a lot of favorable mention in Eclipse Phase a transhuman SF roleplaying game I play tested It s setting has humanity uplifting some other earth species chimps, dolphins, etc to human sentience and then humanity encountering aliens which derive their intergalactic status on whether a species has uplifted other species has client species It has a big debate among humans whether they uplifted themselves to intelligence through natural selection or rather some elder species did the uplift and the abandoned humanity leaving them an orphan species that should be pitied The political ramifications on the origin story of humanity has intergalactic consequences Anyway, I dig it because I m into books on animal intelligence, transhuman SF, etc and it s a great spin on the evolution creation debate Sundiver is actually a murder mystery complete with a parlor reveal scene There also is an interesting political argument about psychological profiling, surveillance and citizenship if we can prove some people are biologically psychological sociopath violent whatever what do we do about it, if we can t fix them I m interested in seeing where the story goes About somethings, it seems Brin made some good guesses and the book is holding up when it comes to recent studies on animal intelligence Still, I think that if we are going to uplift other primates we should pick bonobos before chimps.


  9. says:

    Really fantastic, sci fi that makes you think I liked the aliens and the general mystery plot, but it was the other world building details that stood out for me the technology behind the sun ships the anachronistic idioms used by one character who, due to relativistic time differences involved in her line of work, is from a much older time period the psychological physical tests used to objectively decide that a certain proportion of humanity is too psychopathic sociopathic to interact with the rest of the galaxy the espionage twists that crop up near the end the waxing philosophical political on Aldous Huxley in the final chapter.I know that the next books in the series are set at a much later date, so I hope that the considerations the characters make in the final chapter have some effect on the setting in later books.Brilliant.edit September 2013 I ve read a lot of sci fi since then, including the next two Uplift books, and I m revising my rating down to 4 stars Most of the above applies still, but it s not reeeallly a 5 star book.


  10. says:

    This was a recommendation from my husband, who read these books The Uplift Saga when he was younger and loved them For a science fiction novel that was written and published before I was born, I have to say it has aged very well this could have been written today The technology and the science described is excellent, which was why my husband figured I would like this in the first place.It was also an unexpected pleasure to discover as I was reading that Sundiver turned out to be a pretty decent whodunnit mystery, and the perpetrator behind it all would surprise you.